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Answering-Christianity
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Cassandra
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You are a beast, AC. I can't put it any finer than that, sorry.
If you think any woman would willingly marry a total stranger who just raided her village, killed her husband and other male relatives, and took her other relatives and friends prisoner, you've got to be nuts.
Grow some human decency, will yer? |
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MsWesterner
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he is nuts, and so too is any muslim who would believe that this marriage would be by "informed consent" and real choice!!!
Cassandra....I hope you dont get really derogatory pm's from this oh so gullible and ignorant Answering Christianity that I did.......he comes across as a kid, in delusion, and desperately trying to make out that the pedophile even remotely resembled a decent human being - but the facts of course prove otherwise!!!
I see such ignorant people who support evil and depravity as just so niave and gullible. |
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Feodor Fathon
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You are a beast, AC. I can't put it any finer than that, sorry.
If you think any woman would willingly marry a total stranger who just raided her village, killed her husband and other male relatives, and took her other relatives and friends prisoner, you've got to be nuts.
Grow some human decency, will yer? |
ha ha .... i think safiya will used this moment to escaped herself from Muhammad .... 
Sahih Muslim, Book 009, Number 3504:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messeinger (may peace be upon him) gave us the option (to get divorce), but me made a choice of him and he did not count anything (as divorce) in regard to us.
what was wrong with Safiya ??.... why she didnt used that moment to escaped herself from prophet ??
http://www.geocities.com/mutmainaa1/people/safiyah.html
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Jewish-Converts-to-Islam/kab-al-ahbar.htm
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Infidelia
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You are a beast, AC. I can't put it any finer than that, sorry.
If you think any woman would willingly marry a total stranger who just raided her village, killed her husband and other male relatives, and took her other relatives and friends prisoner, you've got to be nuts.
Grow some human decency, will yer? |
Ah, but she must have been blinded by his good looks and charisma
what a hunk ! Who wouldnt want to be married to this example to humanity.....
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Infidelia
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You are a beast, AC. I can't put it any finer than that, sorry.
If you think any woman would willingly marry a total stranger who just raided her village, killed her husband and other male relatives, and took her other relatives and friends prisoner, you've got to be nuts.
Grow some human decency, will yer? |
ha ha .... i think safiya will used this moment to escaped herself from Muhammad ....
Sahih Muslim, Book 009, Number 3504:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messeinger (may peace be upon him) gave us the option (to get divorce), but me made a choice of him and he did not count anything (as divorce) in regard to us.
what was wrong with Safiya ??.... why she didnt used that moment to escaped herself from prophet ??
http://www.geocities.com/mutmainaa1/people/safiyah.html
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Jewish-Converts-to-Islam/kab-al-ahbar.htm
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FEAR ..thats why quite obviously. After having been traumatised by Mohammeds violence. 
Escape? Escape? Where to for goodness sakes ??
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Feodor Fathon
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Feodor Fathon wrote: |
| Cassandra wrote: |
You are a beast, AC. I can't put it any finer than that, sorry.
If you think any woman would willingly marry a total stranger who just raided her village, killed her husband and other male relatives, and took her other relatives and friends prisoner, you've got to be nuts.
Grow some human decency, will yer? |
ha ha .... i think safiya will used this moment to escaped herself from Muhammad ....
Sahih Muslim, Book 009, Number 3504:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messeinger (may peace be upon him) gave us the option (to get divorce), but me made a choice of him and he did not count anything (as divorce) in regard to us.
what was wrong with Safiya ??.... why she didnt used that moment to escaped herself from prophet ??
http://www.geocities.com/mutmainaa1/people/safiyah.html
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Jewish-Converts-to-Islam/kab-al-ahbar.htm
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FEAR ..thats why quite obviously. After having been traumatised by Mohammeds violence.
Escape? Escape? Where to for goodness sakes ?? |
ha ha ha ...... what will Muhammad deed to Safiya if her choosed divorce with Muhammad ?? 
would ya read this hadits and pay attention with what Muhammad deed to its wives when they got some conflict in their family...i think there was no reason for fear to Muhammad ....MUhammad will went to Upper room if angry to his wife 
Sahih Bukhari. Volume 3, Book 43, Number 648:
.......................So I went to the upper room where the Prophet was and requested to a black slave of his: "Will you get the permission of (Allah's Apostle) for Umar (to enter)? The slave went in, talked to the Prophet about it and came out saying, 'I mentioned you to him but he did not reply.' So, I went and sat with the people who were sitting by the pulpit, but I could not bear the situation, so I went to the slave again and said: "Will you get he permission for Umar? He went in and brought the same reply as before. When I was leaving, behold, the slave called me saying, "Allah's Apostle has granted you permission."
So, I entered upon the Prophet and saw him lying on a mat without wedding on it, and the mat had left its mark on the body of the Prophet, and he was leaning on a leather pillow stuffed with palm fires. I greeted him and while still standing,
I said: "Have you divorced your wives?' He raised his eyes to me and replied in the negative. And then while still standing, I said chatting: "Will you heed what I say, 'O Allah's Apostle! We, the people of Quraish used to have the upper hand over our women (wives), and when we came to the people whose women had the upper hand over them..."
'Umar told the whole story (about his wife). "On that the Prophet smiled." 'Umar further said, "I then said, 'I went to Hafsa and said to her: Do not be tempted to imitate your companion ('Aisha) for she is more beautiful than you and more beloved to the Prophet.' The Prophet smiled again. When I saw him smiling, I sat down and cast a glance at the room, and by Allah, I couldn't see anything of importance but three hides.
I said (to Allah's Apostle) "Invoke Allah to make your followers prosperous for the Persians and the Byzantines have been made prosperous and given worldly luxuries, though they do not worship Allah?' The Prophet was leaning then (and on hearing my speech he sat straight)
and said, 'O Ibn Al-Khatttab! Do you have any doubt (that the Hereafter is better than this world)? These people have been given rewards of their good deeds in this world only.'
I asked the Prophet . 'Please ask Allah's forgiveness for me.
The Prophet did not go to his wives because of the secret which Hafsa had disclosed to 'Aisha, and he said that he would not go to his wives for one month as he was angry with them when Allah admonished him (for his oath that he would not approach Maria). When twenty-nine days had passed, the Prophet went to Aisha first of all. .............."
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Cassandra
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Don't be ridiculus, Feodor. What choice did Safiya have? Her people were all killed or enslaved by Mo.
If you think a woman who be willing to 'marry' a man who just killed her husband and her family then you're lack basic human decency. |
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MsWesterner
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Feodor.....you lack brains, that is for sure - you have been brainwashed with this nonsense, and it completely lacks credibility, just like the koran.
Fairy stories written by people who believed in all kinds of myths and superstitions......e.g. stories that the moon was split in two, and stories that trees talk and about jews, and stories about how you are made and the book got it very wrong, and false stories about women being deficient, and stories about mohammed being good when the real stories show he was a disgusting man.
islam = the hoax |
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sum
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Do you think that Answering_Christianity will do his usual trick and leave the thread that he opened? I am beginning to feel that it is not worth responding to his threads as he just moves on to create some other thread while we time waste on the thread that he has left.
He does not want to debate, just leaves links instead.
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Angel
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Do not click on that link. It will only increase his traffic.
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Infidelia
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| Feodor Fathon wrote: |
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| Cassandra wrote: |
You are a beast, AC. I can't put it any finer than that, sorry.
If you think any woman would willingly marry a total stranger who just raided her village, killed her husband and other male relatives, and took her other relatives and friends prisoner, you've got to be nuts.
Grow some human decency, will yer? |
ha ha .... i think safiya will used this moment to escaped herself from Muhammad ....
Sahih Muslim, Book 009, Number 3504:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messeinger (may peace be upon him) gave us the option (to get divorce), but me made a choice of him and he did not count anything (as divorce) in regard to us.
what was wrong with Safiya ??.... why she didnt used that moment to escaped herself from prophet ??
http://www.geocities.com/mutmainaa1/people/safiyah.html
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Jewish-Converts-to-Islam/kab-al-ahbar.htm
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FEAR ..thats why quite obviously. After having been traumatised by Mohammeds violence.
Escape? Escape? Where to for goodness sakes ?? |
ha ha ha ...... what will Muhammad deed to Safiya if her choosed divorce with Muhammad ??
would ya read this hadits and pay attention with what Muhammad deed to its wives when they got some conflict in their family...i think there was no reason for fear to Muhammad ....MUhammad will went to Upper room if angry to his wife
Sahih Bukhari. Volume 3, Book 43, Number 648:
.......................So I went to the upper room where the Prophet was and requested to a black slave of his: "Will you get the permission of (Allah's Apostle) for Umar (to enter)? The slave went in, talked to the Prophet about it and came out saying, 'I mentioned you to him but he did not reply.' So, I went and sat with the people who were sitting by the pulpit, but I could not bear the situation, so I went to the slave again and said: "Will you get he permission for Umar? He went in and brought the same reply as before. When I was leaving, behold, the slave called me saying, "Allah's Apostle has granted you permission."
So, I entered upon the Prophet and saw him lying on a mat without wedding on it, and the mat had left its mark on the body of the Prophet, and he was leaning on a leather pillow stuffed with palm fires. I greeted him and while still standing,
I said: "Have you divorced your wives?' He raised his eyes to me and replied in the negative. And then while still standing, I said chatting: "Will you heed what I say, 'O Allah's Apostle! We, the people of Quraish used to have the upper hand over our women (wives), and when we came to the people whose women had the upper hand over them..."
'Umar told the whole story (about his wife). "On that the Prophet smiled." 'Umar further said, "I then said, 'I went to Hafsa and said to her: Do not be tempted to imitate your companion ('Aisha) for she is more beautiful than you and more beloved to the Prophet.' The Prophet smiled again. When I saw him smiling, I sat down and cast a glance at the room, and by Allah, I couldn't see anything of importance but three hides.
I said (to Allah's Apostle) "Invoke Allah to make your followers prosperous for the Persians and the Byzantines have been made prosperous and given worldly luxuries, though they do not worship Allah?' The Prophet was leaning then (and on hearing my speech he sat straight)
and said, 'O Ibn Al-Khatttab! Do you have any doubt (that the Hereafter is better than this world)? These people have been given rewards of their good deeds in this world only.'
I asked the Prophet . 'Please ask Allah's forgiveness for me.
The Prophet did not go to his wives because of the secret which Hafsa had disclosed to 'Aisha, and he said that he would not go to his wives for one month as he was angry with them when Allah admonished him (for his oath that he would not approach Maria). When twenty-nine days had passed, the Prophet went to Aisha first of all. .............." |
Very haha FF, especially in the light of those verses that dont prove anything on this subject !
All they show is that mohammed lazed about a lot ! When he wasnt running off to Aisha...hmmm
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Feodor Fathon
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Don't be ridiculus, Feodor. What choice did Safiya have? Her people were all killed or enslaved by Mo.
If you think a woman who be willing to 'marry' a man who just killed her husband and her family then you're lack basic human decency. |
now i ask you ...why Muhamamd's warrior killed her father and husband ??
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Cassandra
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Muhammad's men killed Safiyyah's husband after they tortured him to tell them where the Nadeer treasure was. Then they beheaded him. Now, you want us to believe that your wife will marry the man who ordered you to be tortured and killed? Come to think of it, she probably might since you lack human decency.
It beggars belief that a woman would willingly 'marry' the man responsible for destroying her entire family and her village including all her friends, stealing all their property. |
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Feodor Fathon
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Muhammad's men killed Safiyyah's husband after they tortured him to tell them where the Nadeer treasure was. Then they beheaded him. Now, you want us to believe that your wife will marry the man who ordered you to be tortured and killed? Come to think of it, she probably might since you lack human decency.
It beggars belief that a woman would willingly 'marry' the man responsible for destroying her entire family and her village including all her friends, stealing all their property. |
ha ha ... post your resource (hadith)
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