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Shibli Zaman on Refuting "Answering Islam"
Shibli Zaman's
Refutation of "Answering Islam"
The following are some thoughts on Shibli Zaman's page
Refutation of "Answering Islam".
When Mr. Zaman originally went public with his new
NESSIA site, he had four sections listed
in the category "Site Rebuttals." I did not save the entry page
of NESSIA as it was displayed the end of April, 2003,
but if I remember correctly the categories were:
Some weeks ago, perhaps realizing that having too many empty
sections isn't very impressive, Zaman removed the last three of
these and is now focusing his energies on Answering Islam.
We view it as a compliment that he considers our publications
to be those most worthy of his attention.
It happens regularly that Muslims respond to one or two of our arguments
and then claim that they have refuted our site (see, e.g., Shabir Ally
and his response to our section discussing
Contradictions in
the Qur'an). In a similar manner, Shibli Zaman writes at the top
of this page Refuted Sites
and Refutation of "Answering Islam"
as if a couple of articles responding to a very small number of
arguments had already refuted a whole site consisting of some 10,000
webpages. The fine art of using understatement does not seem to be
a strong point of Muslim polemics.
Obviously, Zaman will never be able to write rebuttals to all
of our articles, even if God grants him another hundred years to his life.
The only hope to refute our site as a whole would be to identify
those foundational assumptions on which all of our arguments
are based, and then refute them. That would cover all of our site.
Otherwise, the most he can hope for, is to provide some rebuttals
to a small selection of arguments presentend on Answering Islam.
Had he given this page the title Refutations of some arguments made
by "Answering Islam" there would be nothing to object to, but as it
stands, it is preposterous.
Zaman's urge to exaggerate his own achievements doesn't stop there.
It is amusing to see him now pack nearly everything he has published
on his site into the section of responses to Answering Islam, even
if they had nothing to do with Answering Islam at the time he wrote
them. On June 22, 2003, this page contained links to eight articles,
out of which five had absolutely no connection with Answering Islam.
But again, it looks a lot more impressive to have eight articles
listed instead of only three! Let's have a look at the entries on
that page:
Does Allâh Order
Muslims to Kill Jews?
Shibli Zaman [ 1/7/2003 12:00:00 AM ]
This is Part 1 in a response to Hal Lindsey's article entitled
"Participating With Pagans" in which he baselessly alleges Muslims
are ordered to kill Jews according to Islâm
Answering Islam has nothing at all to do with Hal Lindsay.
I have not seen this particular article by Lindsay (and Zaman does
not provide a link to it, so that the reader could examine it),
so I will withhold judgment.
However, I have read a couple of his books, and Hal Lindsay's endtimes
speculations have been proven wrong over and over again, but never
have I seen or heard him apologize for any of his false prophecies.
Answering Islam does not want to be connected with Hal Lindsay
and his irresponsible use of the Bible in any way.
That Zaman puts Hal Lindsay in his Answering Islam listing
is definitely the worst of the items on this page. Furthermore,
in the article itself, Zaman does not even mention Answering Islam.
Why he thought the link belongs on this page is mysterious, unless
the purpose was really only to fill the page.
Clear Raisins
or just Sour Grapes?
Shibli Zaman [ 1/25/2003 12:00:00 AM ]
On March 2, 2002 the New York Times published an article entitled
“Radical new views of Islam and the Origins of the Koran” by Alexander
Stille. The article introduced the theories of an obscure and unknown
German academic by the name of Christoph Luxenberg. This book attempts
to propose the theory that the Qu'ran was originally based upon a
Syro-Aramaic compilation of Christian hymns. Thus, he attempts to trace
the words of the Qu'ran back to their ancestral Syro-Aramaic lexemes
to “rediscover” what the Qu'ran truly says. Such theories form the basis
for the writings of people such as Ibn Warraq. Shibli Zaman debunks
Luxenberg's theories in this academic response to these attacks on
the linguistic integrity of the Qu'ran.
Our connection to the New York Times is no closer than to
Hal Lindsay, but at least this time we are grouped together with
a prestigious newspaper. That is a much better connection than
with any of the entrepreneurs of the American Endtimes Industry.
Answering Islam does argue neither for nor against the theories
in this book. But it is important that these new thoughts are discussed
openly so that their truth (or falsehood) will be established. Therefore,
we have added in February (two weeks after Zaman wrote his article, and
not knowing of his article) a link to a
review of the book in an academic journal. Since Answering Islam
does nowhere argue for the Raisins theory, it is silly to place
this article in the section Refutation of "Answering Islam".
Lifecyle of the Universe
in the Qur'ân
Shibli Zaman [ 1/11/2002 12:00:00 AM ]
CNN Reports on the discovery of a color coded lifecycle of the universe.
Amazingly, this color cycle discovered in 2002 matches strikingly to
what is in the Qur'ân, and what the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his
Companions said in the 7th century AD
The expression Lifecyle of the Universe is nowhere mentioned
on Answering Islam, nor does Zaman attempt to draw any such connection.
How this article is supposed to be a refutation of our site is again mysterious.
Maybe Zaman thinks that an article that argues for scientific accuracy in one verse
of the Qur'an qualifies as a refutation of several articles that expose the
scientific nonsense in other passages
of the Qur'an?
Q&A: Fire
Under the Sea?
Shibli Zaman [ 1/14/2003 12:00:00 AM ]
An intriguing analysis into the Hadîth "Verily, there is a fire under
the sea, and a sea under the fire" and its amazing correlation with
a scientific discovery made in January of 2003
Yet again, this article had originally no relationship to Answering Islam
and does not refute anything on our site. Maybe there is a certain
justification that it is listed here now, since several months later,
Answering Islam did publish an evaluation of Zaman's argument in this
article. Thus, the following entry is at last a response to Answering Islam:
REBUTTAL: Fire Under the Sea
- Part 2
Shibli Zaman [ 5/8/2003 12:00:00 AM ]
The first part was merely an answer to a question posed. However, that simple
answer detailing modern science uttered by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)
in the 7th century CE struck fear into the camp at "Answering (Attacking) Islam".
Thus, they felt the need to refute it and attempted to write a "rebuttal". Herein
I get a kick out of reviewing Geoff Austin's "rebuttal" as I am sure you will
as well.
Mr. Zaman loves to speculate about the motives of his opponents (and then
turn his speculations into ad hominem attacks). I am so sure that Zaman
would immediately agree that all of his responses to our site and to other
sites were also written for the sole reason that he was struck by fear.
There can hardly be any other motivation!
The Evangelical
Onslaught Against Islam
Shibli Zaman [ 5/6/2003 12:00:00 AM ]
The difference between the virulent nature of the evangelical missionary
genre in contrast to the kindness of the overwhelming majority in the
Christian world should be acknowledged. The rebuttals found on this site
to "Christian" polemics against Islam are directed to this genre specifically.
Again, this article does not even mention Answering Islam. It is an
aggressive rhetoric directed against Evangelical Christians in general, full
of accusations and ad hominem attacks (e.g., comparing Evangelicals
with Hitler and Bin Laden), but without any kind of proof. There is
not one quotation from Evangelical writings to back up his claims about
them. This article is nothing but an empty rhetoric, and though listed under
the title Refutation of "Answering Islam" it is not refuting
anything on our site, or any other site.
Q&A: Ants Talking
in the Qur'ân?
Shibli Zaman [ 4/10/2003 12:00:00 AM ]
Critics have said that Sûrat an-Naml verses 18-19 which detail Solomon
(peace be upon him) hearing the communication of ants contain a scientific
error. They say ants can only communicate via scent. Here these fallacious
arguments are analyzed and addressed.
ANALYSIS: The Story
of Balaam's Ass
Shibli Zaman [ 5/17/2003 12:00:00 AM ]
An analysis of the Biblical story of Balaam arguing back and forth
with his ass as compared to the Qur'ân's story of Solomon perceiving
the communication of some ants. Exposing a dishonest missionary polemic.
These two entries are really only one, since the second article became
necessary in order to substitute for a very weak argument found in the first
article that had backfired on Zaman (cf. Muslim
Polemics and the Dishonest Use of Scripture). The second article does
not actually refute anything on our site, but only seeks to repair
an argument made in the first article on talking ants.
In conclusion, out of the list of eight articles making up Zaman's
Refutation of "Answering Islam" on June 22, there are really only
two (i.e., "Fire under the Sea - Part 2" and "Talking Ants in the Qur'an?")
that are a direct response to our site. Two out of eight! (Or three out of
eight if we are generous and count "Balaam's Ass" separately.)
Appearances can be so deceiving ...
[Note: Obviously, now that Zaman has made the site Answering Islam
the main focus of his efforts, this ratio will greatly improve in
the future. His next two articles were added to the site on July 28, 2003,
already bringing it up to four (or five) out of ten.]
Zaman started this page with these introductory remarks:
"Answering Islam" started out under the auspices of Jochen Katz
as a defense of Christianity in the face of an abundance of
criticisms from Muslim polemicists. However, over the years it
has now turned into a melee of paranoid and xenophobic attacks
against Islam as most of the writing has gone into the hands
of people who do not have the same standards of decency as
Mr. Katz. Now it is more "Attacking Islam" as opposed to
"Answering Islam". So if the site has taken this turn, then
we must deal them a decisive and definitive defense.
(Refutation of "Answering Islam",
June 22, 2003)
Apart from the words paranoid and xenophobic that was
an unexpectedly reasonable introduction. At that time Mr. Zaman and
I had not yet debated each other directly on any major issue, and
his judgment about me came from his observations over the years in
my dealings with others. After I had published my first three direct
responses to Zaman's publications on July 18, which he apparently
did not take very well, the intro was changed to:
"Answering Islam" started out under the auspices of Jochen Katz as
a defense of Christianity in the face of an abundance of criticisms from
Muslim polemicists. However, over the years it has now turned into
a melee of paranoid and xenophobic attacks against Islam
as most of the writing has gone into the hands of a motley crew of
hatemongers from all over the world. Now it is more
"Attacking Islam" as opposed to "Answering Islam". So if the site
takes this direction, then we must deal them a decisive and definitive
defense.
(Refutation of "Answering Islam",
July 30, 2003; bold and underline emphasis mine)
Changing a finished text is always dangerous, since one may not think as
carefully about it then as one did at the time of its original composition.
Originally the label xenophobic was only silly and wrong, but
now Zaman is contradicting himself within this one paragraph.
Xenophobic obviously doesn't go together very well with "from
all over the world". Answering Islam is clearly an effort by
a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural team. I am not aware of any
xenophobia displayed or promoted on our site, and I challenge
Zaman to prove his accusation with a representative cross-section
of our publications that would justify such a label. Similarly,
there is no basis for the terms paranoid and hatemongers.
They say more about Zaman's personal feelings towards us than about
the actual state of our site.
This introductory paragraph is only one more example of Zaman's regularly
employed methodology of ad hominem attacks against those who dare
oppose him and discuss their differing opinion in public. Nowhere on our
site do we encourage or promote hatred against Muslims (the people).
We critique and expose the ideology of Islam.
Lastly, Zaman's attempt to rename our site into "Answering-(Attacking)-Islam"
in various of his articles, only shows that he has not understood
that the common use of the expression Answering (Islam, atheism, ...)
includes not only a response regarding their claims about our faith
(i.e. a defense of Christianity against the attacks coming from Muslims)
but also the response to the claims made by Muslims about Islam, i.e.
the name Answering Islam naturally and validly includes the critique
of Islam itself. This issue was, however, already explained long ago on
the page about the name of our website,
even though the occasion for that article was a somewhat different
misunderstanding than the one now coming from Zaman.
If Zaman feels personally offended by our critique of Islam, he may
want to learn from the attitude expressed in Amir Butler's article
Speak Up,
I Won't Be Offended published recently in A True Word.
[Ironically, Butler and Zaman are co-editors of the Muslim publication
A True Word.]
Jochen Katz, August 7, 2003
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